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operation_moose 1 hours ago [-]
> The desktop speed and responsiveness are significantly improved compared to whatever was before. This is the first time EVER that I feel Windows 11 has a normal desktop behavior, and isn't just a total flop.
> The battery doesn't last as long as it should. Strangely, it ran out in about an hour or so while I was fiddling with the system, trying to tame it
Is this the new "low latency" mode in action, where they didn't actually fix anything, they just boost the CPU clock?
> The so-called "Low Latency Profile" is a special performance mode that aims to make Windows 11 snappier and more responsive. It boosts the processor clock speed to its maximum for a brief moment when rendering user interface elements or launching apps.
mft_ 1 hours ago [-]
Wow… so even hidden behind the apparently good, user-friendly change… is underhand toxicity?
signal11 27 minutes ago [-]
I recently got myself a Lenovo P-series Thinkpad to test something. My main machine's an MBP, so I was prepared for some pain, but honestly even an old Windows 10 box feels less laggy than the Thinkpad's fully-patched 25H2. Using PopOS on an old Thinkpad easily beats this experience. (And omg the power draw on the P-series!)
I also concur with the "Updates for days" sub-head in the article. That's exactly what it felt like.
I'd love to see some competition in the commercial personal OS space. Windows 11 25H2 isn't a serious contender, I'd love to see what their recent efforts to refocus on native apps will bring.
I'm going to apply the Costco Test: grab a Windows 11 Surface Laptop at Costco and press Win+E to open Explorer. If it takes ages to paint, you've failed the test. Ditto for other bundled apps, including Edge.
alex_c 55 minutes ago [-]
I’m genuinely curious what people at Microsoft, and on the Windows team specifically, run on their daily machines.
They cannot possibly be putting up with Windows 11 as experienced by regular people.
toast0 5 minutes ago [-]
Last fall I got two roughly similarly speced laptops running windows 11 professional. On one, I went through and disabled a bunch of junk with the policy editor and it feels much better than the other. I'm sure you could use one of the slimming scripts that are out there, it's just easier for me to poke at the checkboxes rather than try to audit a script.
It still has weird stuff where sometimes the win+x menu doesn't have keyboard accelerators and sometimes it does, and I still hate right mouse in explorer, but it's tolerable.
ricardobeat 32 minutes ago [-]
Had a very similar experience, plus a few forced system recovery episodes, trying to set up a Ryzen 395+ mini PC. Not to mention the mess of driver installs, having three terminal apps (why is PS7 a separate app??), WSL woes, trying to install python and git. Even chocolatey, which is supposed to make your life easier, has an archaic install process from the 90s. The whole ecosystem is light years behind linux and mac, I cannot understand software engineers using windows.
I am very ready to install linux on it.
mdavid626 2 hours ago [-]
I couldn’t agree more. Windows 11 is pure garbage.
Bender 41 minutes ago [-]
I tried to keep one windows machine around just in case I needed it but every 2nd time I boot it, I have to delete the edge webview binaries, delete that process tree, kill some services, stop some services if I disable them windows update will eat itself after so many updates which I am sure they did on purpose as a passive aggressive humiliation ritual. Then I have to run a powershell script to change affinity and priority of most windows services. If I set those in the registry it will bork the machine after so many updates. Fragile piece of bloated crap.
As I am not into BDSM and not a masochist I just can't keep that OS around. That will be one more CachyOS install. More governments and schools need to ditch windows or they will just keep getting funded.
phendrenad2 16 minutes ago [-]
From the last paragraph, the author seems defensive and bitter. But they needn't be. Windows just isn't for you. Powerusers should stay far away. Powerusers have unusual requirements that break Windows in unusual ways.
For example, the author is complaining that Windows "forgot" his PNG file association, but I'm 99% sure this means that the author installed and then uninstalled some program that took the PNG file association, and Windows isn't designed to anticipate this kind of poweruser fickleness.
Likewise, the author is running their disk space down to <40GB free, and didn't think that this would cause problems (because to a poweruser, 40GB is like, so many config files!) A normal user who got into this situation would hand their PC to a slightly-more-technically-capable user who would notice that the disk was full. Or maybe they'd take it to a PC repair shop. But a poweruser spends "two days of debugging".
kraussvonespy 1 hours ago [-]
Windows isn't getting any slimmer. Storage / RAM isn't getting any cheaper for the first time in the the last ~50 years.
> The battery doesn't last as long as it should. Strangely, it ran out in about an hour or so while I was fiddling with the system, trying to tame it
Is this the new "low latency" mode in action, where they didn't actually fix anything, they just boost the CPU clock?
https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11s-big-performance-boos...
> The so-called "Low Latency Profile" is a special performance mode that aims to make Windows 11 snappier and more responsive. It boosts the processor clock speed to its maximum for a brief moment when rendering user interface elements or launching apps.
I also concur with the "Updates for days" sub-head in the article. That's exactly what it felt like.
I'd love to see some competition in the commercial personal OS space. Windows 11 25H2 isn't a serious contender, I'd love to see what their recent efforts to refocus on native apps will bring.
I'm going to apply the Costco Test: grab a Windows 11 Surface Laptop at Costco and press Win+E to open Explorer. If it takes ages to paint, you've failed the test. Ditto for other bundled apps, including Edge.
They cannot possibly be putting up with Windows 11 as experienced by regular people.
It still has weird stuff where sometimes the win+x menu doesn't have keyboard accelerators and sometimes it does, and I still hate right mouse in explorer, but it's tolerable.
I am very ready to install linux on it.
As I am not into BDSM and not a masochist I just can't keep that OS around. That will be one more CachyOS install. More governments and schools need to ditch windows or they will just keep getting funded.
For example, the author is complaining that Windows "forgot" his PNG file association, but I'm 99% sure this means that the author installed and then uninstalled some program that took the PNG file association, and Windows isn't designed to anticipate this kind of poweruser fickleness.
Likewise, the author is running their disk space down to <40GB free, and didn't think that this would cause problems (because to a poweruser, 40GB is like, so many config files!) A normal user who got into this situation would hand their PC to a slightly-more-technically-capable user who would notice that the disk was full. Or maybe they'd take it to a PC repair shop. But a poweruser spends "two days of debugging".
There's a storm brewing.